During an exchange with ICE Executive Associate Director Matthew Albence before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Hawaii Sen. Mazie Hirono received a lesson on why someone who enters our country illegally has broken the law. One would think that a lawmaker would understand what the word illegal means. You have to see the video to believe it.
“Would you send your child to [the Family Residential Center]?” Hirono asked.
“Again, I think we’re missing the point. These individuals are there because they have broken a law. There has to be a process,” Albence responded, appearing to lose some patience.
Hirono jumped in with an apparent intention to derail where the answer was taking the exchange: “They have broken a law only as deemed so by the president,” she said. The statement seemed to indicate that that she believes President Trump made the law criminalizing illegal immigration.
On Tuesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-HI) admitted to being confused as to who created the law criminalizing illegal immigration. Not only that, she also appeared to no understand why people who break immigration law are arrested. ICE official Matthew Albence had to give the senator a basic education on U.S. immigration law.
Would you send your child to [the Family Residential Center]?” Hirono asked.
Albence appeared to be losing his patience with the senator’s line of questioning and perceived lack of understanding of the issue, saying, “Again, I think we’re missing the point. These individuals are there because they have broken a law. There has to be a process.”
The senator, not liking where Albence’s answer was leading, interjected: “They have broken a law only as deemed so by the president,” she said.
“No, ma’am. They’re there for violation of Title 8 of the immigration of the U.S. and Nationality Act. OK? They’re 8 USC 1325 — that’s illegal entry — is both a criminal and civil violation,” Albence retorted. “They are in those FRCs pending the outcome of that civil immigration process. They have broken the law,” he concluded.
Hirono, now visibly both flustered and frustrated, tried to draw a distinction between civil and criminal proceedings, but was again quickly shot down by the ICE representative.
“There were criminal proceedings when the border patrol prosecuted them, but at the conclusion of that process, once the individual came into ICE custody, they would go through administrative proceedings,” Albence told the Senator.
Albence’s answer appeared to be too much for the Senator to handle, as she responded by simply saying, “I’m confused.”